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EXTREME concern with weather outlook
Culebra, Puerto Rico
Author: mmm112482 (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date:   07-31-06 00:38

The weather forecase for PR in general (including Culebra) for our arrival indicates 60% and 30% chance of rain for most days. We are arriving on thursday the 3rd, and leaving the 12th. I have saved for over a year to take this trip. Right now travel arrangements are somewhat flexible. Should I change plans until another week with better outlook???

This sucks!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: EXTREME concern with weather outlook
Culebra, Puerto Rico
Author: mmm112482 (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date:   07-31-06 01:04

just wanted to add that while unless God himself plans on replying, I dont expect a fortune teller reply, just wondering in general, what can i expect on a day where its 60% chance of precip? Any sun?

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Re: EXTREME concern with weather outlook
Culebra, Puerto Rico
Author: island vacation girl - debbie (---.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net)
Date:   07-31-06 08:33

we have been vacationing in Puerto Rico every year in September for the last 10. i highly doubt your vacation will be rained out as storms tend to pass quickly over the islands. in September the forecast usually calls for 40% chance of rain daily. we we end up with,,,is beautifully sunny days with some showers in the afternoon or evening. relax you'll have a great time !

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Re: EXTREME concern with weather outlook
Culebra, Puerto Rico
Author: Michael (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date:   07-31-06 08:41

yup, as island vacation girl put it - relax, even with 60%, it's going to be fine!

Enjoy Culebra!

Michael

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Re: EXTREME concern with weather outlook
Culebra, Puerto Rico
Author: mmm112482 (---.bsfllp.com)
Date:   07-31-06 08:54

Thanks Michael and Vacation Girl. Im just anxious because my cancellation policies kick in at the end of the day. I can shift the trip back a week or two so I was getting an itchy finger. When I checked last night, NOAA had thursday with heavy local rains and precip of 80. This AM, its down to 50 and no mention of heavy local rains. Apparantly there is an "ODD" (noaa's words, not mine) tropical deprssion like low pressure disruption in the Atlantic that is extremely unpredictable right now. I got nervous.

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Re: EXTREME concern with weather outlook
Culebra, Puerto Rico
Author: Peter Bowden (---.alb.choiceone.net)
Date:   07-31-06 11:35

Hey, it is only the forecast...usually whatever weather that is forecast is the last thing that actually happens.

If you travel to the tropics during hurricane season, you should be prepared for anything but the chances are that it will be just fine.

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Re: EXTREME concern with weather outlook
Culebra, Puerto Rico
Author: Peter Bowden (---.alb.choiceone.net)
Date:   07-31-06 12:59

For those of you interested in traveling during hurricane season the following statement come from CaribWX (noted for highly reliable Caribbean weather forcasting)

http://caribwx.mwxc.com/cyclone.html



" if you're planning a trip to the Eastern Caribbean from June to December, the risk of seeing Tropical Storm Force winds on any given day, at any given location is less than 1-in-500, with a good chance for pleasant weather on the other days of your trip. Your risk of seeing Hurricane Force winds on any given day, at any given location may be about 1-in-2000, with a good chance for pleasant weather on the other days of your trip. Your risk of seeing strong & destructive winds over 100 kts is less than 1-in-5000.

If you hear that "a Hurricane passed thru the Caribbean", remember the Caribbean is a huge area, most Hurricanes are relatively-small, and there's only a slight chance your destination was impacted. Contact your destination for more details if you're think it may have been in the effected area.

Given the small risk that a Hurricane will impact your plans, you might consider taking advantage of off-season rates, and using some of your savings from the lower rates to purchase travel insurance. And of course, check our Marine Forecast daily for the latest weather forecast."

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Re: EXTREME concern with weather outlook
Culebra, Puerto Rico
Author: mmm112482 (---.bsfllp.com)
Date:   07-31-06 13:49

Thanks, Peter. I think I just needed that reassurance. I've never been to the carribean, and unlinke giant landmasses the size of the USA, I now realize that predicting weather for a tiny blip of paradise isnt as "exact" (not that mainland weather is any more accurate).

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Re: EXTREME concern with weather outlook
Culebra, Puerto Rico
Author: Debbie (---.asm.bellsouth.net)
Date:   07-31-06 18:50

May I also suggest that those traveling during hurricane season check out WeatherUnderground.com? Click on Tropical/Hurricane. Dr. Jeff Masters posts a daily blog about the current conditions of the tropics. Currently, the GFDL (see http://www.gfdl.gov/ for an explanation of this organization) model predicts that the tropical wave located east of the Lesser Antilles may develop into a tropical depression arriving in Puerto Rico on Wednesday. Could this change? Absolutely. Should you cancel/change your trip? Depends on how accurate this forecast is. No one can say with any amount of certainty what the weather holds during hurricane season, and especially when a tropical system is threatening. Note that Dr. Masters says "None of the other models buy this solution, and neither do I. Wind shear and dry air will probably combine to keep this wave from developing. Even if the wave does develop, a strong upper-level cold low north of the Bahamas will bring very hostile wind shear to any storm that tries to approach the U.S. East Coast through the Bahamas. The only chance the storm appears to have is if it can stay south of the Dominican Republic in the Caribbean Sea." No doubt until this storm passes, it will bring rain to Culebra.

If you've never been to the Caribbean, I encourage you not to take it lightly. I, on the other hand, am scheduled to arrive in PR on Thursday, and I'm not going to let it hamper my trip based on WeatherUnderground's information. I'll be happy to sit on the porch and read a book in the rain. If I really felt like it was going to develop into a serious tropical storm, I would consider canceling. Hope this helps.

Happy Diving!
Debbie

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Re: EXTREME concern with weather outlook
Culebra, Puerto Rico
Author: Ann-Marie (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date:   07-31-06 22:02

Hey MMM, I share your concern. I posted down the thread too with little response. If you notice, a lot of the days you will be there say 30% chance of precip. Even when it rains I'm doubtful it will be an all day rain. I'm freaking out about this too, I haven't gone away in a year and almost never get time off from my job, so this is my chance to do something relaxing. I wish people who just got back etc. would respond and give us some idea of what the weather has been like.

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Re: EXTREME concern with weather outlook
Culebra, Puerto Rico
Author: mmm112482 (---.bsfllp.com)
Date:   08-01-06 08:53

Anne-Marie, It appears as if this morning, the tropical depression in question officially became tropical storm Chris. Heavy rains are likely in Puero Rico on Wednesday, with the storm passing the are by the end of the day.

From Weatherunderground: It's August in the tropics, the first of the peak months of hurricane season. Befitting the arrival of August comes the arrival of Tropical Storm Chris, which formed this morning just east of the Leeward Islands. The formation of Chris came in defiance of significant adversity--wind shear was 20-25 knots last night when the storm formed into a tropical depression, and is still a rather hefty 15-20 knots. Considerable dry air lies to Chris' north, and strong upper-level winds from the north are acting to push this dry air into Chris' core, keeping the storm from intensifying much. Radar out of Martinique shows a decent band of thunderstorm to the storm's southeast and east, but no thunderstorm activity on the northwest side where shear and dry air are impacting the storm. We don't have a recent QuikSCAT pass to gauge the winds, but two passes by a satellite equipped with a microwave sensor came up with an estimate of 40 mph surface winds. The Hurricane Hunters are scheduled to visit at 2pm EDT this afternoon, so we'll know more then.

This shear and dry air will continue to affect Chris over the next two days. The shear is forecast to gradually weaken, which may allow some slow intensification. Chris must tightrope walk a very narrow path between two upper-level cold lows in order to strengthen significantly. One of these cold lows is just north of the Bahamas, and the other is northeast of Chris. These lows are forecast to move slowly west-northwest in tandem with Chris, and if Chris can stay exactly between them, low enough wind shear exists to potentially allow some strengthening. Any deviation from this scenario will put Chris under hostile wind shear, which will act to limit intensification or even dissipate the storm.

Last night's computer model runs did not start out with a very good initial picture of the current strength of Chris, and dissipated the storm within 72 hours. We need to wait until the next set of model runs based on this morning's 8am EDT (12Z) data are available before taking much stock in both the track and intensity forecasts of the models. The NOAA jet is scheduled to fly the storm tonight, so the best model data for Chris will be available Wednesday morning.

Chris will bring heavy rains and high winds to the Leeward Islands today, primarily to those islands lying to the south of the storm's center, where dry and and wind shear are less of a problem. Puerto Rico should get a good soaking on Wednesday, and after that, the prognosis is very uncertain. Chris could become a hurricane late in the week, but I put the chances of this at 10%. Dissipation is a more likely scenario, since there is so much wind shear around. The most likely scenario of all is that Chris will remain a tropical storm over the next five days.

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Re: EXTREME concern with weather outlook
Culebra, Puerto Rico
Author: Debbie (---.asm.bellsouth.net)
Date:   08-01-06 18:27

It's not looking good, MMM, is it? Hopefully, Culebra will be spared the worst - it does look like it's going to pass to the north. There's a large storm off the coast of Africa though - click on West African Coast map on Weather Underground. That one looks much scarier than TS Chris. Sadly, if it becomes a named storm, it will be named Debby. Let's hope my karma is good this week and next.

Happy Diving!
Debbie

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Re: EXTREME concern with weather outlook
Culebra, Puerto Rico
Author: mmm112482 (---.bsfllp.com)
Date:   08-02-06 09:04

Debbie, Looks like Chris will spare PR/Culebra., allthough my friends and family in the Florida keys are now become quite concerned, so I guess there is a trade off here.

Do you have a link to the African Coast map because I can't seem to navigate to it through their site (perhaps because I haven't had my morning caffeine fix as yet)?


For anyone following this thread, while of course those computer models are nowhere near reliable, all tracking methods have Chris out of the PR/Culebra area by Thursday morning. Also, the Chris Masters blog on weatherunderground (Thanks for pointing this out to me Debbie!) says, among other things, the following:

"...I would not cancel any travel plans for Puerto Rico or the Dominican Republic this week, but those of you planning on visiting the Bahamas may want to rethink those plans."

If anything, my flight tomorrow morning will likely be delayed a bit. Lets just hope I can get out there now, but Culebra, here I come!!!

Out of curiousity everyone, will the storm waters with christ to the west have an impact on the ferry operation???

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Re: EXTREME concern with weather outlook
Culebra, Puerto Rico
Author: Debbie (---.asm.bellsouth.net)
Date:   08-02-06 18:10

Hi MMM,

Sent an email to your gmail address earlier, but in case you didn't get it yet - basically my contacts on the island say they have not had a drop of rain yet, nor much wind, nor are they expecting much. The storm is predicted to stay about 100 miles north of PR at this point. I had the same questions you did. My sister sent me a link about the tourist evacuations, and Monika (owner of the dive shop) just laughed. You know how the media blows these things out of proportion! As for the ferries, they are running today, and are expected to run tomorrow, as they believe the big island of PR will buffer the larger waves. So, at this point, we're expecting to be on the 3pm ferry. I am only concerned now that the mainland airlines could screw it up for us.

Good luck to you getting there. If you want to meet up, look for the "Grateful Dude". That's my husband, and he's hoping to play music at Heather's on Friday, and maybe elsewhere on the island later in the week. We'll be there till the following Saturday.

<www.gr8fuldude.com/>

Happy Diving!
Debbie

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Re: EXTREME concern with weather outlook
Culebra, Puerto Rico
Author: Debbie (---.asm.bellsouth.net)
Date:   08-02-06 18:23

Also, MMM, input 00775 as the zip code on WeatherUnderground and you get a good *idea* of the current weather. The weather station is actually in Isabel Segunda on Vieques, but it is at least on the north side of Vieques, Culebra being a few miles south.

Happy Diving!
Debbie

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Re: EXTREME concern with weather outlook
Culebra, Puerto Rico
Author: mmm112482 (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date:   08-03-06 00:40

Thanks for all the information Debbie. We're leaving out of New York tomorrow morning. As you said, its basically up to the mainland airlines at this point. Let's hope for the best!

We'll definitely try to check out your husband's show. As of right now, it looks like we may spend a few nights in Fajardo, then head out.

Best Regards & Safe Travelling.

-Matt

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Re: EXTREME concern with weather outlook
Culebra, Puerto Rico
Author: JoseGuzman (---.mia.bellsouth.net)
Date:   08-03-06 05:20

See we have a lot of meteorologists, why keep NOAA/NASA...

No one can predict weather, is lost time Bull,
Do not ask stupid questions, watch the radar, and make your own conlusions.
Those who tell not to think to much about weater, are just trying to sell.
They do not care about you, just money.

Capt. J/Guzman

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Re: EXTREME concern with weather outlook
Culebra, Puerto Rico
Author: mmm112482 (---.nycmny.fios.verizon.net)
Date:   08-03-06 05:27

Capt J,

You hit a point that I strayed from making a long time ago, in a fear of offending people on this board. Also, while I realize you can't actually predict weather to a degree of absolute certainty, the science isnt as inacuracte as you make it out to be.

Goodbye to all for now. I'm headed to the airport, and then hopefully off to your beautiful island!

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Re: EXTREME concern with weather outlook
Culebra, Puerto Rico
Author: Peter Bowden (---.alb.choiceone.net)
Date:   08-03-06 16:20

Well, Captain Jose, there's no need to belittle people for asking an opinion of what the weather might be from folks that live on Culebra.

It is a wise traveler that asks such "stupid questions". The wise traveler will also study all the predictions that the meteorologists and computer models are making and THEN make their own conclusion.

Of course you are correct that it is impossible to predict the weather with 100% accuracy but that doesn't mean that you shouldn't seek out the opinions of those who may be more knowledgeable.

Tell me Captain, do you even bother to look at the forecast before you take your boat out of the harbor. If not then I don't think I'd want to be one of your passengers.

To those who DO want to have places to go to get some answers to your "stupid questions" about the weather, here are a couple of my favorite hurricane sites:

http://www.boatus.com/hurricanes/tracking.asp

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/

And for reports from island residents (including Culebra):

http://stormcarib.com/index.htm#reports

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